Parramatta Eels

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Spinksy, Sep 20, 2009.

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  1. AVA T Delonge

    Well then we gained no real benefit. :laugh:
     
    AVA, Apr 20, 2016
    #381

  2. Julian BJ Taylor

    Yeah well it's sort of double tough titties isn't it.
     
    Julian, Apr 20, 2016
    #382

  3. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    The players didn't break the cap, the club itself did. If you lose 8 points, you're still only a few wins outside the 8, and the Eels should really dominate through the origin period, as none of your players should make either side.
     
    Boobidy, Apr 20, 2016
    #383

  4. AVA T Delonge

    Yep.

    I'm fine with copping a penalty, just not sure behind the logic of banning them from this seasons Finals series if it's a completely unrelated team.
     
    AVA, Apr 20, 2016
    #384

  5. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    It's not though. It's still the Eels. With your logic a team could rort the cap and sign all the best players to a 1 year deal and the club could then avoid all punishment in the future because they'd have a different playing roster.
     
    Boobidy, Apr 20, 2016
    #385

  6. AVA T Delonge

    Yeah, fair point. I just figure there are better actions to take against the club which also doesn't punish a bunch of innocent people as well.

    Makes me wonder, if the Eels had been successful over the past few years and had been stripped premierships like the Storm, would a punishment also have been applied to this season (assuming we are not over the cap now like the Storm still were in 2010 when their dramas were leaked)? If not, it's shit that the punishment is being applied now because we are finally looking successful :laugh:
     
    AVA, Apr 20, 2016
    #386

  7. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    I don't think being over the cap was your problem, apparently you were making cash payments to overseas accounts for players, and also making 3rd party agreements for players.
     
    Boobidy, Apr 20, 2016
    #387

  8. AVA T Delonge

    But if you stripped the team of anything they won/fined them for any additional profits they made doing that, what would be the point? It wouldn't benefit the current team any more than if it hadn't had happened
     
    AVA, Apr 20, 2016
    #388

  9. Farhat AM Farhat

    Well if they had won the premiership that year you strip them of the title. Otherwise, a fine suffices.

    Jenko, but yeah, we should really win.
     
    Farhat, Apr 21, 2016
    #389

  10. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Bullshit. Needs to be a severe punishment if they are guilty of cheating. If they aren't taken out of this years comp, Storm and Dogs will lose it, and rightly so.

    You're basically wanting a lesser punishment because your side is shit even with cheating.
     
    Boobidy, Apr 21, 2016
    #390

  11. AVA T Delonge

    The scenarios are not exactly the same though. The Storm and Bulldogs were both in breach of the salary cap during the season they were punished in, hence why they were deemed ineligible for the Finals in 2002/2010.
     
    AVA, Apr 21, 2016
    #391

  12. BMT BMT Con

    It could also be argued that Parramatta have gained an advantage by providing illegal payments outside of the cap in order for players to be released from their contracts early (according to what is alleged) and without consequence in future year's salary caps.

    These actions could also be used to substantiate the argument for stripping points this year.
     
    BMT, Apr 21, 2016
    #392

  13. Magic AJ Parker

    I can't think of a greater incentive than a loss of points to deter cheating the salary cap.

    Fines only deter those who can't afford them. Points are equal no matter which club you are at.
     
    Magic, Apr 21, 2016
    #393

  14. Julian BJ Taylor

    Agree with all of that
     
    Julian, Apr 21, 2016
    #394

  15. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Scenario might be different, crime isn't though.
     
    Boobidy, Apr 21, 2016
    #395

  16. BMT BMT Con

    BMT, Apr 21, 2016
    #396

  17. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Don't know what point you're trying to make with that.
     
    Boobidy, Apr 21, 2016
    #397

  18. BMT BMT Con

    Just funny that he still feels that he did nothing wrong.
     
    BMT, Apr 21, 2016
    #398

  19. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    I don't think he did. He didn't do the Storms books. Administration is to blame, not the players.
     
    Boobidy, Apr 21, 2016
    #399

  20. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Melbourne had to play for no points because they were actually still fielding an illegal team in 2010. It would have been a disgrace if they actually won anything that year. Parramatta should be punished, but the punishment doesn't need to completely write off their season because their current side is legal. I reckon 8 points would be pretty fair, tbh.
     
    Cribbage, Apr 21, 2016
    #400
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