State Of Origin 2026

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Maroon_Faithful, May 16, 2026.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Steps on his arm...and then holds his boot is what you meant to say.

    Never once said Radley should've been binned. Are you okay, lil bud?
     
  2. Magic AJ Parker

    This is what you want to deny a try for?

    https://streamable.com/dddjp1
     
  3. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Lol how naive are you, mate?
     
  4. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I don't think Tedesco or Edwards should even be in contention for the Blues fullback spot tbh. If Turbo shows full fitness and great form then maybe an argument could be made for him but short of that, Drinkwater should already be pencilled in afaic.

    He has more passing and ball-playing ability than the other two combined. The Blues do not have enough points in them to have a pure ball runner at the back. Drinkwater has the best passing game and vision of any NSW no.1 and by a long way.
     
  5. Toolman TR Man

    Katoa's been a total flop in international games, makes some of the dumbest decisions you'll ever see. Not in the same realm as Cleary or Moses and no point even mentioning it because he has 0% chance of being selected while either of them are available to be 7, nor should he be. Cleary's style should be ideal for origin, the team should be picked around him and his style of play. You can't have 2nd rowers playing prop with Cleary, but you can with Moses.
     
  6. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Nah you misunderstood. Katoa isn't in contention with Cleary, in my mind. I'm saying Moses at 7 for organisation and either Strange or Katoa at 6.

    I don't put any stock in those Islander test matches. They are the most mickey mouse, touch football prank sides. They're the furthest thing from Origin that you could possibly get.

    As for Cleary, I dont know why you think his style is perfectly suited to Origin. It is Penrith from start to finish. It's conservative drop-off shit until sheer weight of possession and field position falls them over the line. His attacking instincts from outside the opposition 30/40m are non-existent.

    The fact that he's been shithouse in pretty much every decider he's played in doesn't help his cause either.
     
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  7. Toolman TR Man

    He hasn't been shithouse in finals series. How isn't his pin and grind style suited for Origin? Until recently Origin was a defensive contest. Qld is now all out attack and enthusiasm due to who they have. Picking Moses is just going for attack vs attack and Qld have a better hooker and fullback for that all out attacking style. Pin them into the corners and let them wear themselves out. When you have Haas and Fonua Blake combined with Cleary kicking into the corners, it's hard to lose if you keep it simple, and have props on the bench as well.
     
  8. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    You're spot on with that analysis of Qld. I have the stats written down somewhere; Qld under Slater score more tries and make more linebreaks from outside the opposition 40m or inside their own half, than any team in Origin history.

    The part I think you're misdiagnosing is that a team who moves the ball like that and completes at 85-95%, combined with the 6 agains, short dropouts and 7 tackle restarts, means it's virtually impossible to pin and grind them as you would in a club game for long periods.

    They have Koroisau, they have Brailey. They have Drinkwater or Turbo. There's so much more creativity and ad-lib in there than Tedesco/Edwards and Robson imo.
     
  9. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I would also just add to the above that Moses's long kicking game is more suited to that style than Cleary's is anyway, even if his overall game isn't. I mean he has the best long kick of any half in the NRL. NSW looked far better when he was drilling most of them in the first 40. The longer the game went, the more Cleary kicked and Qld were returning the ball much further upfield.

    Even if by some miracle Daley picks the pack we all think he should; Haas/Yeo up front, Olakauatu back in, Murray at 13, two props on the bench, you're still gonna have Cleary burning tackles in the mid-field with drop-off shit instead of taking risks, throwing cut-outs, playing down short-sides, cause it's all he knows. You're still gonna have Tedesco burning tackles with two nothing runs a set from first receiver cause it's all he knows. I really think this is make or break for Cleary. If he doesn't do something in this decider, he has to go, and he'll be in the Mitchell Pearce basket, no matter how many people want to compare him to Joey.
     
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  10. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Latrell out of game 3. Koula will presumably keep his spot. Staggs has to go though. I wouldn't be playing Best out of position and I assume it will be Crichton.
     
  11. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I mean of all the disqualifying criticisms you could level at Ashley Klein, 0 ruck infringements against NSW two games in a row, has got to be up there. 0 ruck infringements in 160 minutes of football. You can't make this shit up.
     
  12. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    I was at the Sharks-Roosters game on the weekend and thought he was abysmal. It happens to a lot of the refs, but when they think a team is favourites and at home they just lean way to hard on them. Bunker seems to be the same.


    God damn Nawanqgatahhweeseeay is good though, so sad he's going to union, one of the best wingers I've ever seen, but in a really different mould to any other I can remember. There's been cult heroes that were all speed, or all strength, or great finishers, or insane work rate. But his defining charcteristic just seems to be all skill and timing, he is a terrific finisher, but the chances he creates with offloads etc are so impressive. I'd love to have seen whta he could've become with another 2-3 years of origin.
     
  13. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    If the Blues picked Moses and Luai, I'd have some concerns. They won't though.
     
  14. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    He'll be back.
     
  15. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Agreed. I don't understand why his form seems to count for nothing. He's reffed 14 straight games and 22 in total, which is more than Bill Harrigan. The idea that he simply needs to turn up to be handed another series is absurd given how shit he's been at club level.
     
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  16. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Yeah same. I don't think Cleary/Moses works at all. Strange, Luai, Katoa are all better options at 6. They'll never drop Cleary though.
     
  17. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Calls for Luai are ridiculous. He's got to be one of the most over rated halves of all time. Origin you need a 5/8th that's going to capitalise on those half chances, a guy that'll see a 4 on 3.5 overlap and get it right to get on the outside. It's just not Luai, he's unpredictable which sometimes looks good, but if you look closely he seems to be very pre meditated, he doesn't step back inside because 'A' defenders are lazy, there's a prop 2 wide of the ruck or there's a quick play the ball and the markers are slow etc, he just does it every now and again because he figures its just time to do it, regardless of the numbers he'll have outside him/opportunities on the fringe etc. I'm nearly convinced that he's just Travis Burns with an islander look and happened to be 5/8th for the strongest NRL side and system of all time. The way the Tigers didn't miss a beat while he was out, when they replaced him with Jock Madden of all people reinforced just how disposable he is.



    I'm not opposed to the calls for Cleary to make way, I still think he's too good not to be picked and I'd like to see him play for NSW with an actual coach and proper plan/rotations etc too. Everyone seems to love Luai and Moses for that series they got us back on track, but they got to play under Madge with a semblance of a cohesive plan, might be the only time we had Yeo off the bench for all 3 games too.

    Clearys had Fittler ten times and Daley. They're just complete spuds.
     
  18. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Agree with most of that except for the fact that Luia has played better than any other NSW 6 in the last 5 years. Walker, Wighton and Moses have been toilet at 5/8th. Strange looked quiet prior to the Ponga send off but great when it was 13 on 12.

    It should be Strange imo. Big, strong ball runner who can play to his Canberra teammate, Young and leave the rest to Cleary or Moses.
     
  19. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    As great as Billy has been coaching Qld, I'm a little bit surprised he hasn't adjusted Cobbo's positioning on shifts. I've been saying it for years whenever Cobbo's played for Qld, he's too deep and too far in-field. It cost us a try in game 1, and could easily have cost us on the play where Ponga got wiped out. Cleary is very prone to over-chasing and Hammer beat him with the step inside twice, luckily. But i'd still rather see Hammer burning him or Staggs for pace on the outside and Selwyn actually in position to take advantage once the 2 on 1 is there.

    Other than that Cobbo has been pretty much flawless.
     
  20. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I don't see any way that Moses can be picked after last night and game 2. Dude is clearly hampered by injury and doesn't want the contact.
     

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