Quiz time. What lanes did these teams I played in/against end up with: Bard, Darius, Lux, Sona, Veigar Heimerdinger, Lux, Shyvana, Veigar, Yi
I think the group queuing definitely a step backwards. I think it's fair to say that 4 man premades can be quite annoying for the guy left out. Also think that it's not as fair for true solo players.
nah depends what ranking you are, high plat + would be fine because most people can play atleast 2 roles really well and don't mind filling
I'm talking about how common it is for a 4 stack to troll the single player. If that guy makes any mistakes you can be sure that he will be blamed for everything going wrong.
Yeah same. I think duo is really the upper limit of what you should allow but ideally solo queue is best.
Riot are trying to appeal to the broader normal queue playing audience and are basically ignoring people who are already playing ranked.
yeah it's hurr durr these are the reasons people aren't playing ranked lets get more people playing ranked. Ranked is supposed to be a challenge, it's about mental mindset can you win with strangers. You have to have a combination of mechanics and decision making to climb, the moment you implement "parties" the less decision making is required to be an attribute the individual must have and more an attribute "someone" in the party must be excellent at.
Five solo queuers won't get matched with a five man prepare though. I think there should be three effective queues: five man, two and three man, and solo. I don't really care if they share a ranking or have separate ones
Yeah that's how I would do it if I really wanted to give people to opportunity to play ranked with more than just a single friend. The problem right now is that there is no guarantee that a 2-3 will play against a 2-3 and also there is opportunity to play with a 4-premade
4 man premades is the stupidest shit ever for ranked, should just have DotA's system (Not biased with this it's just better IMO) where solo rating=solo only and then a seperate teamrating for 2/3/5 queues and no 4queues in ranked.