Changes and Ideas for Season 12 (read the first post or you'll get an infraction)

Discussion in 'CricSim Cricket' started by Cribbage, Apr 22, 2012.

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  1. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    I understand and will, without complaint, comply to your rulings. I just see and feel that there is a clear tension (within your moral assertions) between performance results and club loyalty and atmosphere. A tension that already existed in my head without reference to other clubs at all. But one that is increased greatly by your (so far philosophical, soon to be more tangible) approach to recruitment.
     
    stupersteve03, Aug 21, 2012
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  2. Roaddogg AJ Izett

    its not about retention but rather recruitment

    its like trying to stop signing no1 ranked bowler to put no 5 ranked bowler into alc for instance

    they didnt need to make that signing at all
     
    Roaddogg, Aug 21, 2012
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  3. Mousey AJ Son

    :lol: So if Hunt said so you he'd sign next season you wouldn't sign him as it'd mean you'd play ALC even though you're now BS standard? Righto.

    It's horseshit. The second and third best clubs are being asked not to improve their chances of winning to comp. Fuck that.
     
    Mousey, Aug 21, 2012
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  4. AVA T Delonge

    What if players approach the club as they want to be a part of the club atmosphere and don't want to sign anywhere else, and those players happen to be good? They aren't allowed to sign on?
     
    AVA, Aug 21, 2012
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  5. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Pretty much.
     
    Cribbage, Aug 21, 2012
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  6. 99* JJ Ritchie

    Using me is a poor example, my player is a distant second to me than the club. I wouldn't care if I didn't play at all if it benefited the club.

    But if it was somebody else I'd say no. The guys who have stayed at the Saders so far and said they are going to stay I'm not going to sell them down the river just because I want to win more games next season.
     
    99*, Aug 21, 2012
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  7. Mousey AJ Son

    What if they were happy to play ALC? What if the club meant as much to them as well?

    What if they were your Pumas counterpart?
     
    Mousey, Aug 21, 2012
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  8. Cribbage RG Cribb

    This isn't really what I'm talking about though. You bringing a player to the Saders which would put you in ALC would be dire for the competition, whether you liked it or not.
     
    Cribbage, Aug 21, 2012
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  9. 99* JJ Ritchie

    I'm sure there are guys here that wouldn't mind playing ALC. That still doesn't mean that I'm going to actively look for somebody to replace them.

    I know, the ALC batsmen have a hard time scoring runs as it is. :p
     
    99*, Aug 21, 2012
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  10. Baxter MJ Deane

    Basically, the BS would be at its best standard if the best 99 players were playing in it each week. The more clubs that recruit excess players the further we move away from that standard and the less ideal it is. Obviously that's not what Cribb is aspiring to as naturally there are always players in seconds who would make first grade at other sides. However, in recent seasons its moving towards a point where some second grade sides could compete with some BS sides, which while not unfathomable from a reality perspective is not ideal from a competition integrity viewpoint imo. Though the way in which it happened was fine. Howe was a rookie who came good, BTF went inactive and got dropped etc. However, from the sounds of it.. some teams are actively recruiting (or would actively recruit) to the point where their ALC side could consider making a hypothetical push for a finals spot in the BS (slightly exaggerated). How is that in anyway ideal?
     
    Baxter, Aug 21, 2012
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  11. Athlai JJD Heads

    Are teams with declining inactives (the type who are happy enough to sign a contract every season but never hang around) resigned to keeping them signed and not recruiting to find a player who actually contributes to the forum though?
     
    Athlai, Aug 21, 2012
    #511

  12. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    If the league is already imbalanced, how is rewarding retention going to help rebalance it? In an ideal market, the market will find its balancing point naturally.

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    HeathDavisSpeed, Aug 21, 2012
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  13. Athlai JJD Heads

    Should actually just let every team keep a core group of 5-11 guys and then have a draft for the rest of cricsim.
     
    Athlai, Aug 21, 2012
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  14. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Yes but it's not an ideal market because the clubs don't actually have anything to offer.

    If the difference between playing ALC and playing BS was the difference between living in your parents' basement and buying a two story house with a pool and a sportscar like it would be in reality then the market would even itself out.
     
    Cribbage, Aug 21, 2012
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  15. Captain SSD Dong

    If I'm following this right then you can recruit a replacement for the inactive player - provided the recruit isn't a BS standard player. Don't think Cribb is stopping us from 'growing' our own players to replace inactive ones either.
     
    Captain, Aug 21, 2012
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  16. Cribbage RG Cribb

    We don't have enough active members of the forum for each club to have 22-24 active players, so yes, pretty much. It's much better for the competition for the Allstars to have Bullpitt and the Cyclones to have Doog than the Allstars to have Doog and no-one to be able to sign Bullpitt. Every club has a few inactive players, and recruiting from other clubs to replace them is an even more short-sited shit cunt act that recruiting in order to put BS players in ALC.
     
    Cribbage, Aug 21, 2012
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  17. weldone RM Chowdhuri

    :laughing:
     
    weldone, Aug 21, 2012
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  18. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    A! HA! You lose. My parents don't have a basement :schmoll:
     
    HeathDavisSpeed, Aug 21, 2012
    #518

  19. Jabba HJ Bots

    Clubs are just being punished for having a good group of members
     
    Jabba, Aug 21, 2012
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  20. Escath LE Schaw

    Calling bullshit on the Saders not jumping at the chance of better players.
     
    Escath, Aug 21, 2012
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