Thought I'd get this thread up nice and early so there's no confusion. I've decided that it'd be best to get us back level with the afl so we'll go straight into season 2 after season 1 with the draft inbetween. To make up for the fact that this season was a bit shorter (between 2-6 pre season matches, 7 regular matches and 4 finals matches) I think we'll go with 15 retentions and then 12 for every season after that. Just for those that aren't aware - retentions are players you keep on your list without having to redraft them. To retain a player, you essentially 'pre draft' them with the same pick you did last time (or similar, depending on trades). So for example I'll retain Tom Mitchell who I picked in round 27, so before the draft happens he'll be locked into my round 27 pick. There's a real tactical element to retentions. While I might have 15 better players than Tom Mitchell, the gap between Mitchell and any player I might otherwise get at round 27 is huge whereas if I retained, say, Luke Ball in round 15 instead - the gap would be a lot smaller. The best 15 players on your list may not be the best 15 retentions. In fact, I highly doubt that's the case. Just a few basic rules for retentions in CPL AFL - You must pick once within a four pick space. That means you cannot retain 4 consecutive players at ANY stage in the draft - Only twice may you go three picks without taking a live pick - you may not retain more than 6 players in your first 10 selections - you may not retain more than 6 players in any 10 selection range at all This is just to prevent (what I believe would have happened) people from retaining their first 10 picks and the one bloke who doesn't getting fucked over. Also to keep the draft circulating and attempt to keep the 'quality range' or the retentions similar; so people are on average retaining an even number of players through the whole field. The one piece of advice I'll give about retentions is ask yourself 'how much better is this player than the one I could otherwise select with this pick' - and if the answer is 'much' - then retain. As for retention order, each list has 34 players (some have 35 thanks to my cock up, just do 35). For those who didn't trade any players, your 'retention order' will simply be the 34 players you drafted in order with retired players removed and the PSD blokes tacked on (in order of how they were taken in the PSD) at the end. It is assumed that pick 1 in the PSD fell directly after round 34 in the main draft. For blokes who were traded out, they obviously aren't part of your order but blokes who were traded in simply slide in where they were drafted, i.e. a round 5 pick slides in around round 5 - if they were picked ahead of your round 5, then your round 5 slides down to round 6. Might end up having some blokes a round or three off where you drafted them with but that's fine. For example, my retention order is 1. Nic Naitanui 2. Nat Fyfe 3. Rory Sloane 4. Justin Westhoff (trade) 5. Tom Rockliff 6. Alex Rance 7. David Swallow (trade) 8. Brad Ebert 9. Hamish Hartlett 10. Chris Dawes 11. Lachie Henderson 12. Jack Watts 13. Colin Sylvia 14. Matty Wright 15. Luke Ball 16. Brent Reilly 17. Ricky Henderson 18. Arryn Siposs 19. Lachie Whitfield 20. Aaron Mullett 21. Joe Daniher 22. Rory Thompson 23. Jesse Hogan 24. Jackson MacRae 25. Tom T. Lynch 26. Tom Mitchell 27. Tom Hickey 28. Matt Shaw 29. Dawson Simpson 30. Rory Laird 31. Lachie Neale (psd) 32. Mitch Grigg (trade/psd) 33. Tom Curren (trade/psd) 34. Tom Jonas (trade/psd) So that's the round pick I'll need to use to retain each of those players. I expect/hope you'll organise this for yourselves and I'll just check for errors afterwards if that's okay. I'll open up this thread for retentions already so feel free to post yours whenever. Please format it like the above list and bold the players you wish to retain. No code, please. Only post your retention list in here too. Any discussion/questions or anything goes in season 1 discussion or PM me if you'd prefer. You're free to edit your retention list at any time between now and when I'll close off retentions (3-4 days after the grand final) so there's no reason not to at least post a draft now to make life easy for everyone. The database will undergo some changes over the offseason so it's not advisable to pick players based on CPL AFL performances; I'd certainly recommend using IRL performances. Also as a sidenote if you plan on giving up your team for next season let me know asap so i can find a replacement to handle all of this on your behalf. Also let me know if you want a name change for next season. Any questions, ask (just not in this thread - only want 16 posts in here all of them retention lists ) Skip
1. Dane Swan 2. Kurt Tippett 3. Matthew Kreuzer 4. Michael Hurley 5. Daniel Merrett 6. Luke Shuey 7. Jackson Trengrove 8. Nathan Foley 9. Bachar Houli 10. Jordan Lewis 11. Courtenay Dempsey 12. Jarryd Blair 13. Dylan Grimes 14. Kane Cornes 15. Reece Conca 16. Nick Malceski 17. Chris Newman 18. John Butcher 19. Patrick Karnezis 20. Liam Jones 21. Kane Lucas 22. Robbie Warnock 23. Ben Griffiths 24. Jimmy Toumpas 25. Shannon Byrnes 26. Stephen Gilham 27. Matt Dea 27. Angus Graham 28. Tom Sheridan 29. Nick Kommer 30. Jimmy Webster 31. Josh Bruce 32. Patrick McGinnity 33. Anthony Miles Will edit probs. Think I've forgotten a player too.
1. Josh P Kennedy 2. Travis Cloke 3. Ivan Maric 4. Ted Richards 5. Jeremy Cameron 6. Travis Boak 7. Michael Johnson 8. Dyson Heppell 9. Andrew Walker 10. Daniel Wells 11. Josh Caddy 12. Shaun Hampson 13. Jordan Roughead 14. Mitch Robinson 15. Alex Fasolo 16. Bernie Vince 17. Andrew Raines 18. Alan Toovey 19. Brock McLean 20. Danny Stanley 21. Kade Simpson 22. Jeremy Laidler 23. Trent West 24. Kepler bradley 25. Paul Puopolo 26. Lachlan Keefe 27. Ben Kennedy 28. Matt Jones 29. Jarrad Redden 30. Kane Mitchell 31. Paul Seedsman 32. Ben Sinclair 33. Viv Michie 34. Christian Howard Will make final decision before the deadline
Dereks provisional: 1. Nic Naitanui 2. Nat Fyfe 3. Rory Sloane 4. Justin Westhoff 5. Tom Rockliff 6. Alex Rance 7. David Swallow 8. Brad Ebert 9. Hamish Hartlett 10. Chris Dawes 11. Lachie Henderson 12. Jack Watts 13. Colin Sylvia 14. Matty Wright 15. Luke Ball 16. Brent Reilly 17. Ricky Henderson 18. Arryn Siposs 19. Lachie Whitfield 20. Aaron Mullett 21. Joe Daniher 22. Rory Thompson 23. Jesse Hogan 24. Jackson MacRae 25. Tom T. Lynch 26. Tom Mitchell 27. Tom Hickey 28. Matt Shaw 29. Dawson Simpson 30. Rory Laird 31. Lachie Neale 32. Mitch Grigg 33. Tom Curren 34. Tom Jonas Losing some pretty fucking spiffing picks there. Shattered. Ball @r15, Henderson @r17, Mullett @r20 and especially lynch at r25 are all really quality picks that I can't retain Would love to retain Simpson too over Hickey (as then I can take Lynch due to the rules) but he's shown sfa. Laird/Shaw/Grigg/Curren also suck
1. Jobe Watson 2. Taylor Walker 3. Sam Jacobs 4. Ben Reid 5. Grant Birchall 6. Jake Carlisle 7. Charlie Dixon 8. Stephen Hill 9. Jaeger O'Meara 10. Brandon Matera 11. Jeremy Howe 12. Ben Stratton 13. Brendan Whitecross 14. Brandon Ellis 15. Jack Trengove 16. Steven Motlop 17. Nathan Van Berlo 18. Shaun Burgoyne 19. Jared Polec 20. George Horlin-Smith 21. Anthony Morabito 22. Kyle Hartigan 23. Kyle Hardingham 24. Zac Clarke 25. Elliott Kavanagh 26. Lewis Johnston 27. Michael Talia 28. Koby Stevens 29. Ben Jacobs 30. Tom Bell 31. Aaron Edwards 32. Scott Lycett 33. Cameron Hitchcock
1. Gary Ablett jnr 2. Bryce Gibbs 3. Will Minson 4. Jack Darling 5. Darren Glass 6. Jack Redden 7. Dayne Zorko 8. Jarrad Waite 9. Scott D. Thompson 10. Steve Johnson 11. Andrew Carrazzo 12. Jasper Pittard 13. Luke Parker 14. Nick Smith 15. Liam Anthony 16. Scott McMahon 17. Dustin Fletcher 18. Luke McGuane 19. Brent Harvey 20. Brad Crouch 21. Sam Dwyer 22. Rhyce Shaw 23. Jesse Lonergan 24. Trent Dennis-Lane 25. Thomas Murphy 26. Tony Armstrong 27. Tim Membrey 28. Brandon Jack 29. Jarrad Grant 30. Liam McBean 31. Cameron Sutcliffe 32. Tom Campbell 33. Luke Brown 34. Jake Spencer
1. Scott Pendlebury 2. Drew Petrie 3. Matthew Leuenberger 4. Matthew Boyd 5. Luke McPharlin 6. Beau Waters 7. Stewart Crameri 8. Heath Shaw 9. David Mundy 10. Cale Hooker 11. Mitch Duncan 12. Jack Steven 13. Lindsay Thomas 14. Alex Johnson 15. Ben McGlynn 16. Ben Howlett 17. Matthew DeBoer 18. Jarryn Geary 19. Leigh Adams 20. Rhys Stanley 21. Brett Goodes 22. David MacKay 23. Clinton Young 24. Dom Tyson 25. Lewis Stevenson 26. Hayden Crozier 27. Steven May 28. Callum Sinclair 29. Jordan Lisle 30. Ben Hudson 31. Jed Lamb 32. Mason Wood 33. Levi Casboult 34. Brad McKenzie
1 Scott Thompson 2 Patty Ryder 3 Jonathan Patton 4 Tom Bellchambers 5 Michael Jamieson 6 Harley Bennell 7 Will Schofield 8 Josh Jenkins 9 Danyle Pearce 10 Luke Dahlhaus 11 Allen Christensen 12 Heath Hocking 13 Robbie Tarrant 14 Alipate Carlisle 15 Toby Greene 16 Jack Viney 17 Jared Peterenko 18 Taylor Hunt 19 Jake Batchelor 20 Tyson Goldsack 21 Tendai Mzungu 22 Billie Smedts 23 Lachie Plowman 24 Nick Vlastuin 25 Jordie McKenzie 26 Matthew Watson 27 Will Hoskin Elliott 28 Sam Docherty 29 Brodie Grundy 30 Sam Rowe 31 Aaron Hall 32 Tory Dickson 33 Daniel Gorringe 34 Dom Barry (psd)
Berserkers - Season 2 Retentions Matthew Pavlich Chris Judd Zac Smith Kieran Jack Nick Dal Santo Tyrone Vickery Zac Dawson Michael Barlow Robert Murphy Nathan Bock Jed Adcock Sam Fisher Leigh Montagna Dylan Shiel Lewis Roberts-Thompson Shaun Higgins Trent McKenzie Adam Schneider Ash McGrath Andrejs Everitt Thomas Lynch Sam Mayes Billy Longer Michael Firrito Troy Menzel Dom Cassisi Adam Tomlinson Sam Kerridge Nathan Wright James Gwilt Jordan Murdoch Farren Ray Sam Grimley Josh Green Dane Rampe
CW Mullets United List Tom Hawkins Luke Hodge Aaron Sandilands Corey Enright Heritier Lumumba Josh Gibson Dustin Martin David Zaharakis Chad Wingard Quentin Lynch Ollie Wines Matthew Stokes Ryan O'Keefe Brent Moloney Daniel Jackson Andy Otten Ricky Petterd Mark Jamar Nick Maxwell Marty Clarke Ashton Hams Max Gawn Colin Garland Cameron O'Shea Marco Paparone Garrick Ibbotson Ryan Lester Dennis Armfield Will Sierakowski Dean Terlich Jason Johannisen Easton Wood Cameron Ellis-Yolmen Dylan Addison Sam Darley
Yeah, gonna close these off next monday at midnight (going into tuesday). Have them done by then. Cheers
Native Tongues Season 2 Retention List 1. Harry Taylor 2. Dayne Beams 3. Cyril Rioli 4. Mitch Clark 5. Jimmy Bartel 6. James Frawley 7. Jack Gunston 8. Shannon Hurn 9. Jonathan Brown 10. James Kelly 11. Mitch Wallis 12. Michael Walters 13. Jared Rivers 14. Ryan Bastinac 15. Steven Morris 16. Jesse White 17. Nathan Vardy 18. Shane Edwards 19. Sean Dempster 20. Jake Stringer 21. Dion Prestia 22. Jono O'Rourke 23. Gary Rohan 24. Shaun McKernan 25. Matthew Warnock 26. Sam Shaw 27. Liam Picken 28. Jackson Thurlow 29. Josh Walker 30. Jack Hannath 31. Jordan Schroder 32. Mitch Brown 33. Brent Renouf 34. Taylor Duryea
1. Lance Franklin 2. Jarryd Roughead 3. Steele Sidebottom 4. Lewis Jetta 5. Dale Thomas 6. Luke Breust 7. Hayden Ballantyne 8. Chris Mayne 9. Shaun Grigg 10. Jarrad McVeigh 11. Matthew Rosa 12. Adam Goodes 13. Brad Sewell 14. Sam Gilbert 15. Michael Hibberd 16. Thomas Bugg 17. Tom McDonald 18. Daniel Cross 19. David Myers 20. Brian Lake 21. Mike Pyke 22. Rohan Bewick 23. Rohan Bail 24. Lynden Dunn 25. Josh Hunt 26. Craig Bird 27. Elliot Yeo 28. Michael Evans 29. Clay Smith 30. Matthew Lobbe 31. Dean Kent 32. Kyle Cheney 33. Andrew Moore 34. ? I really have nfi who to retain, probably left off a new gun player
CW Mullets United Retention List Tom Hawkins Luke Hodge Aaron Sandilands Corey Enright Heritier Lumumba Josh Gibson Dustin Martin David Zaharakis Chad Wingard Quentin Lynch Ollie Wines Matthew Stokes Ryan O'Keefe Brent Moloney Daniel Jackson Andy Otten Ricky Petterd Mark Jamar Nick Maxwell Marty Clarke Ashton Hams Max Gawn Colin Garland Cameron O'Shea Marco Paparone Garrick Ibbotson Ryan Lester Dennis Armfield Will Sierakowski Dean Terlich Jason Johannisen Easton Wood Cameron Ellis-Yolmen Dylan Addison Sam Darley
1. Patrick Dangerfield 2. Brett Deledio 3. Hamish McIntosh 4. Daniel Talia 5. Jay Schulz 6. Mark Lecras 7. Daniel Hannebery 8. Sam Day 9. Ryan Schoenmakers 10. Eric Mackenzie 11. Daniel Menzel 12. Jack Ziebell 13. David Armitage 14. Travis Varcoe 15. Jonathon Griffin 16. Clinton Jones 17. Jason Porplyzia 18. Rhys Palmer 19. Joel Patfull 20. Majak Daw 21. Devon Smith 22. Jason Winderlich 23. Jacob Townsend 24. Alex Silvagni 25. George Burbury 26. Sam Colquhoun 27. Brent Staker 28. Shane Kersten 29. Tom Lee 30. Cameron Guthrie 31. Josh Bootsma 32. Ayce Cordy 33. Brodie Martin 34. Levi Greenwood
15. Scott Selwood 513 (24) 18. Jack Riewoldt 451 (25) 34. Dean Cox 526 (32) 63. Nathan Brown (Collingwood) 261 (25) 66. Andrew Mackie 486 (29) 95. Chris Masten 491 (24) 98. Stefan Martin 243 (27) 127. Daniel Rich 448 (23) 130. Sharrod Wellingham 398 (25) 159. Stephen Coniglio 456 (20) 162. Chris Yarran 386 (25) 191. David Hale 426 (29) 194. Jamie Elliott 410 (21) 223. Nick Suban 365 (23) 226. Ben Cunnington 514 (22) 255. Mitch Brown (WCE) 287 (25) 258. Josh Hill 355 (25) 287. Dale Morris 290 (31) 290. Michael Rischitelli 398 (28) 319. Chris Knights 305 (27) 322. Brent Macaffer 306 (26) 351. Daniel Giansiracusa 317 (32) 354. Mitch Golby 386 (22) 383. Beau Maister 246 (28) 415. Jamie MacMillan 375 (22) 418. Matthew Jaensch 414 (24) 447. Adam Kennedy 318 (21) 450. Jack Newnes 375 (21) 482. Jason Tutt 230 (22) 511. Marley Williams 404 (20) 514. Kyle Martin 332 (23) 543. Mitch Clisby 369 (24) 386. Tom Logan 345 (28) 479. Nick Haynes 356 (21)
1 Joel Selwood 2 Nick Riewoldt 3 Ben McEvoy 4 Ryan Griffen 5 Callan Ward 6 Troy Chaplin 7 Heath Grundy 8 Lachlan Hansen 9 Matt Suckling 10 Paul Chapman 11 Adam Cooney 12 Tom Scully 13 Sam Butler 14 Nathan Jones 15 Tayte Pears 16 Richard Douglas 17 Lenny Hayes 18 Jon Giles 19 Scott Gumbleton 20 Dylan Roberton 21 Lee Spurr 22 Jake Melksham 23 Karmichael Hunt 24 Shane Savage 25 Brodie Smith 26 Ed Curnow 27 Mark Blicavs 28 James Polkinghorne 29 Josh Thomas 30 Matt White 31 Sam Blease 32 Justin Clarke 33 Jed Anderson 34 Ryan Harwood
I'll try to do it tonight. 1. Cotchin 2. J Kennedy 3. Mumford 4. Goddard 5. Stanton 6. Priddis 7. Rutten 8. Hanley 9. Grimes 10. Betts 11. Podsiadly 12. Broughton 13. Grima 14. Libaretore 15. Pearce 16. Crowley 17. Monfries 18. Treloar 19. Broadbent 20. Scotland 21. Neade 22. Adams 23. Young 24. Hrovat 25. Martin 26. Witts 27. Touhy 28. Wright 29. White 30. Jaksch 31. Hutchings 32. Nicholls 33. Hombsch 34. Langford
I'll do mine tomorrow night. I promise. 1. Marc Murphy 2. Andrew Swallow 3. Todd Goldstein 4. Sam Mitchell(traded) 5. Phil Davis 6. Andrew Gaff 7. Shaun Atley 8. Sam Reid 9. Robbie Gray 10. Tom Lonergan 11. Jeff Garlett 12. Paul Duffield 13. Jarrod Harbrow 14. Isaac Smith 15. Liam Shiels 16. Ashley Smith 17. Robin Nahas 18. Tim Mohr 19. Jake King 20. Brad Hill 21. Sam Gibson 22. Kieran Harper 23. Campbell Heath 24. Claye Beams 25. Aaron Black 26. Dan Currie 27. Matt Maguire 28. Terry Milera 29. Matthew Buntine 30. Jack Fitzpatrick 31. David Ellard (psd) 32. Matt McDonough (psd) 33. Tim Broomhead (psd) 34. Tim O'Brien (psd) Retentions bolded