Sixth South African team will be introduced in 2016

Discussion in 'Rugby Union Discussion' started by MrPrez, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. MrPrez CM Dyer

  2. Quaggas O du Toit

    This way we have a least 4 1/2 teams in the comp.
     
  3. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    If they don't split Super Rugby into two conferences, this is a joke.

    As a 6th team in NZ would also be. And as a 5th team in Australia already is.

    I'm less concerned if they end up heading down a conference system as I'm deadset against any increase in the fixture list.
     
  4. Colesy BL Hornby

    Don't they plan to bring in a south pacific and a japanese side too?
     
  5. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Argentina and Japan are looking reasonably likely, I think - with a two-conference system to keep the season manageable and the travel costs down.
     
  6. Skippos SM Morgan

    6 South African teams + force + 2 Argentinian teams

    4 other aus teams + 5 nz?

    For conferences?
     
  7. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    That probably makes more sense than what is likely to eventuate. I cannot imagine the ARU agreeing to the Force being in an RSA conference. Which will inevitably mean either the loss of an Australian team or unbalanced conferences or additional teams in South Africa.

    6 RSA + 2 ARG
    5 AUS + 5 NZ + Japan

    A USA/Canada team has been alluded to as well, but that'd make travel ridiculous and putting Japan in with RSA + ARG is non-sensical.
     
  8. Starris ER Starris

    There has been a fair amount of talk recently... not sure what the best way forward is.
    I think travel is the biggest hurdle.

    Something like only one super team has won a final away from home and that was the Crusaders.
     
  9. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Need national competitions as the elite level, like real sports.
     
  10. Rego RS Hutchinson

  11. MrPrez CM Dyer

    Will be fucking pissed if we get lumped with argies and japan. Should be two conferences with half SA, Nz and Aus in each one. Arg in one conf and Japan in the other.

    No point of superrugby if you're gonna make one conference SA plus one or two other sides. Thats what the currie cup is for.

    Im not a fan of the new changes but I just feel that ita good that the kings dont lose out at the end of the day.
     
  12. Jabba HJ Bots

    NZ To leave super rugby asap
     
  13. Starris ER Starris

    won't happen.
     
  14. Arheiner SIA Yates

    Yeah, because 2 conferences has so much point if you're not going to do it on distance/travel.

    I don't see the point in a new team tbh. The only country that should even theoretically consider one ATM IMO is NZ, but we've got nowhere to put one which makes it a terrible idea.
     
  15. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Yours is the worst idea of the lot.

    Most of the money made is between two local teams. Gates are higher, TV audiences are higher.

    Higher costs are incurred in matches between non-local teams.

    Therefore, Profit is maximised in matches between local teams. Plus, as an added benefit, player burn out is less likely.

    So, making any potential Conferences geographically based is a no-brainer.

    They will not split the three countries 50/50. That'd be ridiculous on so many levels.

    From my point of view, they're just milking every possible cent out of Super Rugby, despite ever increasing levels of rugby fatigue amongst traditional fanbases, there will be no appetite at the highest level to actually reduce the amount of rugby played in order to maximise the quality.
     
  16. Starris ER Starris

    Not sure I completely agree with you there Heef.

    I don't watch lot's of rugby but I'd be keener to see NZ teams playing other nations as there is more at stake and I wanna see them win... if they are playing each other I'm generally not too worried who wins as they are both NZ.

    Of course this is probably not the norm as ppl generally only support one team.
     
  17. Mousey AJ Son

    Travel expenses would be nuts in Prez's model.
     
  18. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    You don't have to agree with me on a personal basis. In fact, I don't necessarily agree with it on a personal basis, but it's a statistical fact which was used to underpin the existing (ridiculous) model for Super Rugby.
     
  19. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Not necessarily about supporting just one team but most people will have a go to team. For example myself, I love watching rugby and don't just support the Hurricanes but of course I support them by far the most.

    If the Hurricanes are playing say the Crusaders and the Canes win, the win feels that much sweeter for us than say the Canes playing the Kings......for obvious reasons.

    So that's why fans are more inclined to turn up to the Saders game than say the Kings.

    Haha the Canes is a terrible example - fans don't turn up anyway haha.
     
  20. Roaddogg AJ Izett

    think about it rivalry wise, theres more rivalry and history (taking the cities each franchise is based in) between teams from same countries

    like who really cares about crusaders vs kings for instance
     

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